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How did you enjoy the show today?

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It was fucking amazing.

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I love playing with you and it was so nice

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to reconnect with you in that way and

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you are fucking brilliant and a natural

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and it was so

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I don't know. It was so smooth.

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Literally. 
-Yeah.

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It did go very, very smoothly

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and I had a lot of fun
playing with you as well.

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I mean, it flowed very naturally.

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I mean, even though we haven't played
in like six years.

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Yeah

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It's fun reconnecting like this.

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Yeah, and I also really enjoyed that

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we're two BIPOC trans non-binary people

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who are just like enjoying our bodies
and enjoying ourselves and sharing that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Thank you.

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What was most challenging about the shoot?

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Probably the timing and just making sure

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we were on track and things weren't,
I guess, taking too long.

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But I mean, I was having fun.

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Yeah, I mean, I think it was smooth.

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I think it went smooth as well.

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But I agree. For me, it's timing.

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It was like my first time, kind of like,
Oh, I'm the one topping and like,

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kind of supporting you
and coming into this scene literally.

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And I was just like, Oh,
I want to make sure that we're

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keeping track because

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when I'm getting my, like, dick sucked like
that I lose track of time really easily.

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But I'm just like, Oh, okay.
Time to move on

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I think we did a really good job
and really flowed

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You did a great job. 

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What are your safer sex practices and why?

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My safer sex practices is to get tested

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after every new partner.

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And also, even if that doesn't happen

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at least every few months, I like to have,
like, a rhythm of getting tested.

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And then I also like to use barriers
like condoms on toys

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and other things.

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(laughs)

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I think it's important to make sure to,
you know, stay safe.

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No, absolutely.

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And especially in a polyamorous community
as well,

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and just, you know, different folks.

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I know we both got tested
before we came in and showed each other

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the results and we were both negative
before we did anything.

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But even then, the condoms over toys and

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being mindful.

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Yeah.

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And I agree with like,

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especially if you have multiple partners
and different

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intimacies and sharing bodies, it's
just important to get checked.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Um, if this is your

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first time doing porn
or returning to porn.

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Why did you do it?

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Well, this is my second porn,
and it was really fun.

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I think I love the creativity of it,
like embodying creativity in that way.

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I know in my first film
I had like a totally different

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expression, like more femme.

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And this time I came in more masc.

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So it's just like, playful.

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I like to embody my creativity.

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I think that's what it is and just show
other people that you don't have to be

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one thing or the other,
that you can be all of it.

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And also have fun
and embrace your pleasure.

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So there's many reasons there,
but I think ultimately like creativity,

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expression and

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just pleasure in a consensual - 
- Yeah

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- contained clear way.

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Exactly. No

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I am so excited to

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see other folks just like us and us,

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including I like being able to add to like

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the adult film industry and just to like
if... I was just saying... 

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...if I was able to see bodies
like mine or my body on film

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when I was younger,
or at least just like,

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you know, more of the diversity,
the queerness, like

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even in these interviews

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that would have changed my, my life
a little, a little sooner, than

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than it has, but it's so exciting
to be able to make these videos

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and to be able to share that intimacy
and be able to, you know, get spanked  on camera.

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Yeah. I like spanking on camera

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Yeah

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I just I guess I just want to say
that it's so empowering

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to do porn or adult films
because we just get to enjoy our bodies

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and reclaim the narrative.

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And it's in a way that it's like for us
and for other people to, like,

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truly enjoy.

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I know growing up, for me,
porn was like so sinful.

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Growing up in a Roman Catholic upbringing,

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my mom wouldn't even let me fucking
watch kissing in a fucking movie scene

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or a TV show. It was like.

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She would go up with her skirt and like,
cover the fucking TV

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and I was like... like anything sensual
or erotic was not allowed.

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So like to do adult films
and really, like, heal that trauma

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as a trans person,
as a BIPOC person.

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Like, I feel like I'm healing things
for my ancestors as well.

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Yeah.

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And I absolutely agree.

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I mean,

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like I saying "our father"

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if I ever used to masturbate when I was
younger, it's definitely a change of pace

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from now and I'm so fucking glad I'm here
and we're here

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and that we've made it this far.

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And I mean, continue to explore
and have fun kinky sex

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and, you know, continue to have
play partners and just play

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And be queer.

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(Shine, off camera) Excellent

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Now for the bonus question.

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Which is like this is really serious,

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Serious.

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So serious...

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Hot dog.

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Is it a sandwich or a taco?

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I've never heard this question before.

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This is absolute taco.

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It is open and it's usually connected
at the base. I will fight over this.

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This is a hotdog sandwich or a taco.

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You think it's a taco. 

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Yeah, it's a taco.

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I mean -

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I think we have to think about
where hotdog originated from first.

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Okay.
- Is it an American thing?

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Because then it's totally a sandwich,
but if it's from like

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a Latin country,
maybe it is a taco like Mexico.

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I mean,

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yeah, that's true.

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I think it's a sandwich.

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All right, well, we'll be leaving here
and getting hot dogs...

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I actually ate a hot dog in San Francisco.

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Well then we'll have to keep exploring.

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But I do think it is a taco 
- No, sandwich.

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I guess we'll have to wrestle about it.

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I'll win! 

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Well, I'll let you win.

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Okay? 
- Yeah. Uhhuh.

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Excellent.