1 00:00:19,569 --> 00:00:19,884 Speaker: Speed. 2 00:00:19,885 --> 00:00:20,158 Speaker: Yup. 3 00:00:20,159 --> 00:00:20,474 Speaker: [clap] 4 00:00:20,475 --> 00:00:20,790 Speaker: Danke. 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker: All right. 6 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:24,150 Speaker: Action when you're ready. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,769 Saffron: Hi. 8 00:00:34,770 --> 00:00:35,770 Adina: What you got there? 9 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:38,789 Saffron: It's called a book. 10 00:00:39,469 --> 00:00:40,059 Adina: What's that? 11 00:00:40,060 --> 00:00:40,648 Saffron: It's called a book. 12 00:00:40,649 --> 00:00:42,569 Adina: It's called a book, it's got notes in it. 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,729 Adina: Can I, can I see? 14 00:00:46,210 --> 00:00:47,215 Adina: Gonna keep telling me your pain? 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,600 Adina: Sorry. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,420 Saffron: How did you enjoy the shoot today? 17 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:53,100 Adina: I had a wonderful time. 18 00:00:53,250 --> 00:00:53,549 Saffron: Yeah. 19 00:00:53,550 --> 00:00:54,439 Adina: How about you? 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,239 Saffron: I had a great time. 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Adina: You had a great time. Yeah. 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,420 Saffron: Yeah, I did good. 23 00:00:59,421 --> 00:00:59,969 Saffron: You did good. 24 00:00:59,970 --> 00:01:01,179 Adina: You seemed like it. Yeah. 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,549 Adina: No, no, no. I kinda got, I got that. 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,565 Adina: I got that impression that you, you're 27 00:01:04,566 --> 00:01:05,566 Adina: doing all right there. 28 00:01:05,970 --> 00:01:07,170 Saffron: I was doing fine. 29 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:08,700 Adina: Doing good. 30 00:01:10,659 --> 00:01:11,659 Saffron: Ooh, yes. Slap me. Again. Thank you. 31 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:12,248 Adina: Do you want to watch? 32 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:25,876 Saffron: Yes, make me watch. 33 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:47,842 Saffron: Fuck. [Vibrator shuts off, then back on to laughter.] 34 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:05,670 Saffron: Ah, ah... 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,108 Adina: It's totally gonna get the book wet. 36 00:02:25,389 --> 00:02:25,928 Adina: How you doing? 37 00:02:25,929 --> 00:02:26,929 Saffron: Great. 38 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:33,110 Adina: Can I have some of that? 39 00:02:35,230 --> 00:02:38,089 Adina: What was challenging, if anything? 40 00:02:38,870 --> 00:02:41,899 Saffron: I think just like throwing 41 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:42,278 Saffron: things... 42 00:02:42,279 --> 00:02:43,499 Saffron: Keeping track of things that were like 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,419 Saffron: coming off and being thrown around 44 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:49,669 Saffron: and yeah, just like props. 45 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:50,670 Saffron: Managing props. 46 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:52,403 Saffron: I used to be a prop manager when I did 47 00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:52,799 Saffron: theater. 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Saffron: So like just that that aspect of it. 49 00:02:54,770 --> 00:02:55,770 Adina: Just managing. 50 00:02:55,890 --> 00:02:56,890 Adina: Yeah. 51 00:02:57,570 --> 00:02:59,873 Adina: Yeah. Also just like remembering where I 52 00:02:59,990 --> 00:03:01,930 Adina: put things like where is. 53 00:03:01,970 --> 00:03:02,970 Adina: Where'd the lube go. 54 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:04,699 Adina: Because it's not like where it usually is 55 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:05,700 Adina: when we're at home. 56 00:03:05,701 --> 00:03:06,016 Saffron: Right. 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,270 Adina: And it's like. Oh that's right. 58 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,809 Adina: The lube's under there. Okay. 59 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:10,409 Adina: Like just. Yeah. 60 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:11,509 Saffron: Yeah. 61 00:03:11,510 --> 00:03:12,919 Adina: We have pretty good chemistry. 62 00:03:12,970 --> 00:03:15,469 Saffron: So I think that was it challenging 63 00:03:15,510 --> 00:03:17,006 Saffron: and it was just like the technical stuff. 64 00:03:17,007 --> 00:03:18,110 Adina: Right. Yeah. 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,500 Adina: Same for me. Like where did I put the lube. 66 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:23,240 Adina: You know. Where's my water. 67 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:26,959 Saffron: Yeah. Like breathing also like checking 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,449 Saffron: in with my body. 69 00:03:28,540 --> 00:03:31,009 Saffron: And just like not over-exerting myself. 70 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:32,250 Adina: Yeah. 71 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:33,690 Saffron: Managing my pain system. 72 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:37,009 Adina: Managing your pain. Is your pain 73 00:03:37,010 --> 00:03:38,010 Adina: managed? 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,874 Saffron: My pain has been managed. 75 00:03:38,875 --> 00:03:40,399 Adina: That's great. I'm glad I could manage, help 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,299 Adina: you manage your pain. 77 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:42,300 Saffron: Very well managed pain. 78 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:50,730 Adina: You wanna get me back. 79 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:51,780 Saffron: Mm mm mm mm please... 80 00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:54,789 Adina: Mm mm 81 00:03:56,140 --> 00:03:57,140 Adina: mm mm mm. 82 00:03:58,453 --> 00:03:59,453 Adina: You can tap out whenever you want. 83 00:04:05,590 --> 00:04:07,988 Adina: Mm hmm, oh yeah. 84 00:04:11,770 --> 00:04:12,770 Saffron: Where'd the lube go? 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,770 Adina: We're done with this. 86 00:04:53,690 --> 00:04:54,690 Saffron: Between your ass. 87 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:21,170 Adina: Um, so what are... 88 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:24,135 Adina: What are your safer sex practices, and 89 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,480 Adina: why? 90 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:27,629 Saffron: Um, you know, communication is just like 91 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:28,660 Saffron: the key. 92 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:30,480 Saffron: It's like incorporating 93 00:05:32,370 --> 00:05:34,379 Saffron: consent into the conversation. 94 00:05:34,410 --> 00:05:36,930 Saffron: So it's, it's like brought up 95 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:39,779 Saffron: not casually as in it's something that 96 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:41,683 Saffron: should be taken casually, but like, 97 00:05:42,420 --> 00:05:44,129 Saffron: you know, like can be brought up that 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,479 Saffron: easily because it is important and 99 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,699 Saffron: central to every kind of relationship, 100 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:48,700 Saffron: really not just a sexual one. 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,089 Adina: Yeah, same here. It's just, you know, 102 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:53,389 Adina: checking and making sure that, you know, 103 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:55,859 Adina: everyone involved is still enjoying 104 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:56,860 Adina: themselves. 105 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,389 Adina: And just. Yeah, keeping track of 106 00:06:01,530 --> 00:06:03,949 Adina: limits. And, you know, coming back 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,319 Adina: and even though, you know, something was OK 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,910 Adina: this time. Like, yeah. 109 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:10,247 Adina: You know, let me make sure that this is 110 00:06:10,248 --> 00:06:11,693 Adina: still, this is good, we're still okay. 111 00:06:12,179 --> 00:06:13,919 Saffron: We did this last time, you want to do 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,399 Saffron: that again? 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,039 Adina: Right. Yeah. 114 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,539 Saffron: Yeah. 115 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:17,699 Adina: Yeah. Um, I mean, we're 116 00:06:18,450 --> 00:06:20,549 Adina: fluid-bonded so we don't really have to 117 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:21,550 Adina: worry about. 118 00:06:21,970 --> 00:06:22,970 Saffron: Yeah. 119 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:24,430 Adina: Too much and. 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,580 Saffron: Yeah. Because we have like sex often. 121 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,896 Saffron: We're not just coworkers who are scene 122 00:06:28,897 --> 00:06:29,549 Saffron: partners. 123 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:29,909 Adina: Yeah. 124 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:32,490 Saffron: Yeah. So that aspect of it was. 125 00:06:33,330 --> 00:06:35,549 Adina: But if you you know, if you do have sex 126 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:38,379 Adina: with someone else then we're obviously 127 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:39,629 Adina: both using barriers and. 128 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:40,199 Saffron: Yeah. 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,470 Adina: You know, applying the same, uh, 130 00:06:43,380 --> 00:06:44,380 Adina: communication. 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:44,939 Saffron: Yeah. 132 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:46,230 Adina: So why did you do this today? 133 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Saffron: Um, you know. 134 00:06:47,801 --> 00:06:48,137 Adina: You know. 135 00:06:49,702 --> 00:06:52,799 Saffron: The capitalist financial 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,149 Saffron: economic aspects of it. 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,339 Saffron: Um, but like. 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,269 Adina: It's work. 139 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:59,399 Saffron: Also like of all the things I could do 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,739 Saffron: for work, this is something that I enjoy 141 00:07:01,740 --> 00:07:04,259 Saffron: doing. And I wouldn't hate my Mondays 142 00:07:04,270 --> 00:07:05,088 Saffron: if you know. 143 00:07:05,089 --> 00:07:06,170 Adina: If this is what you get up to. 144 00:07:06,449 --> 00:07:07,529 Saffron: If this is my job. You know, I'm not 145 00:07:07,530 --> 00:07:08,034 Saffron: hating Mondays. 146 00:07:08,035 --> 00:07:10,420 Adina: You endured your commute Monday morning and 147 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:14,040 Adina: I you had your coffee. 148 00:07:14,490 --> 00:07:15,929 Adina: You know, you lubed up your hair. 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,549 Saffron: I've done different forms of sex work 150 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:20,420 Saffron: before. And I think I like doing porn 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,743 Saffron: and like filmmaking, and like creating 152 00:07:23,190 --> 00:07:25,920 Saffron: erotic film and cinematography is 153 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:28,545 Saffron: something that is really interesting 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,560 Saffron: to me is visually, but also like 155 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:32,670 Saffron: politically, what that 156 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,293 Saffron: all that entails in terms of 157 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,101 Saffron: representation and the cultural dynamics 158 00:07:38,670 --> 00:07:39,709 Saffron: of seeing yourself. 159 00:07:40,670 --> 00:07:43,050 Adina: But that's kind of why I did it again 160 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:45,989 Adina: and I will continue to do it is because, 161 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:48,089 Adina: you know, I set out for the first time to 162 00:07:48,090 --> 00:07:50,160 Adina: be the representation that I wanted to see, 163 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:53,339 Adina: and I want to continue 164 00:07:53,910 --> 00:07:56,339 Adina: to be the representation that I want to see 165 00:07:56,380 --> 00:07:58,769 Adina: and encourage more people 166 00:07:59,910 --> 00:08:02,459 Adina: to, you know, to do the same. 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,179 Saffron: Yeah. 168 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:05,220 Adina: Yeah, I'd encourage people to, you know, 169 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:07,949 Adina: expand their horizons. 170 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:08,286 Adina: You know. 171 00:08:08,287 --> 00:08:10,769 Saffron: In terms of like what porn is and can 172 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:11,099 Saffron: be. 173 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:12,767 Adina: Right. Exactly yeah. 174 00:08:12,768 --> 00:08:13,293 Saffron: Who can make it. 175 00:08:13,338 --> 00:08:14,819 Adina: Right. And it's it's definitely, you know, 176 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:15,820 Adina: it's an art form. 177 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:17,999 Adina: And, you know, you might be, you might be 178 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Adina: good at it! 179 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:20,410 Saffron: You're rather good at it. 180 00:08:20,610 --> 00:08:23,220 Adina: Thank you. I think you are exceptional. 181 00:08:23,221 --> 00:08:23,473 Saffron: Aw. 182 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:25,150 Adina: Aw. 183 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:27,230 Saffron: You're exceptional. 184 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:28,950 Adina: Aaawww, oh stop. 185 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:33,899 Adina: Is there anything else that you would 186 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:35,049 Adina: like to add? 187 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:36,580 Saffron: I had a great time. Doing this 188 00:08:37,409 --> 00:08:40,200 Saffron: was like healing 189 00:08:40,350 --> 00:08:42,869 Saffron: and almost like 190 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:44,820 Saffron: 'therapeutic' in a lot of ways. 191 00:08:45,050 --> 00:08:46,050 Adina: Okay. Yeah. 192 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,721 Saffron: And like, in setting out to do something 193 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,909 Saffron: that like a younger me would appreciate, 194 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,769 Saffron: obviously like I'm doing this just for 195 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:55,171 Saffron: myself. But like people who are like me, 196 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Saffron: like us, in our communities I think like 197 00:08:58,560 --> 00:08:59,939 Saffron: when I was younger I didn't think like 198 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:02,039 Saffron: I... One, I didn't see people like me in 199 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,919 Saffron: porn. I didn't think I could ever, like 200 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:05,580 Saffron: not just like be in porn, but make make 201 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,309 Saffron: art. And like be desirable and like to be 202 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:09,839 Saffron: both behind the camera and in front of 203 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,159 Saffron: the camera. I don't think those were 204 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Saffron: places for me. 205 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,129 Saffron: You know, for various reasons, like being 206 00:09:14,130 --> 00:09:15,269 Saffron: disabled is one of them. 207 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,179 Saffron: And so like today, like just the space 208 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:19,649 Saffron: has been really accessible. Everybody's 209 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:22,620 Saffron: been, um, really sweet and kind. 210 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:25,289 Saffron: And, um, yeah, I definitely 211 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:28,080 Saffron: felt supported in like you. 212 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:31,019 Saffron: And and like everyone here, um, 213 00:09:31,130 --> 00:09:33,690 Saffron: to like to do the things. 214 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:34,900 Saffron: Do all of the things. 215 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:36,870 Adina: I'm glad to hear that. 216 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:37,629 Saffron: Yeah,. 217 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:38,779 Adina: I'm happy to hear that. 218 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:41,159 Saffron: Yeah. Thank you for being you and doing 219 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,819 Saffron: that with me. 220 00:09:41,820 --> 00:09:43,409 Adina: Thank you for being my partner. 221 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:44,649 Saffron: Thanks for being my partner.