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(Intro music)

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(Shine Louise Houston)
Okay, thank you.

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One of you is going to ask the other

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What?

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"How'd you enjoy the shoot today?"

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I'll start.

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So, what'd you enjoy about the shoot today?

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ACAB, what'd you got? Or... "Tyler"...

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(Laughs)

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Um...

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Gosh, I.... think it was really fun to....

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..get dressed up. And, uh...
cosplay. Basically.

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Yeah, mhmm

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Cause I'm not actually an avid sports fan
and I don't know that much about football!

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But, um... 'bromanticizing'

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the homo-eroticism of a bunch of
dudes in sports gear is pretty fun.

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Yeah it's so gay! (Laughs)

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It felt really good to like,
wear my outfit. And pretend.

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How about you?

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Um...

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I don't know...

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I love you, and you're my lover,
and my friend and everything

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and so, any time doing
this with you, it's um...

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..it's just hella fun, man.

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I love that we get to dress up and roleplay.

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I think we should do tennis next time.

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(Laughs)

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Yeah, it's been really good.

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I think just... with you, you know?

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It's always fun.

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I mean, yeah. We have fun
no matter what we're doing.

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This is just like part of our relationship.

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It's how we roll, you know!

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Let's try something else, hey!

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I love when we were trying to figure out what 'vanilla' was.

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You know... outfits.... (laughs)

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Um, what was the most challenging thing today?

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Uh... phew!

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Getting up early...
..to do queer porn

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Um, yeah, I guess

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I think that, otherwise...

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..putting on a role and doing
more dialogue and acting

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is challenging for me

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but it's fun to practice
and experiment with it

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because that's how you
get more comfortable with it.

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Yeah

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How about you?

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I think, uh... Honestly man, for me?
I think the dialogue went great!

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Like, I think we just played into our roles

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I could go a long time without
hearing the word 'bro'....

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(Laughs)

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Cause it's a thing... but it's cool...

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bro's got their love too.

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I think it was challenging for me because
I had to learn football dialogue

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How do 'bros' talk?

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So that part, the studying

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trying to figure out

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how they are and everything
was just kinda cute, you know?

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And funny at the same time.

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It was fun playing around with it.

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But the homework was

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probably the hardest part.

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That was my morning, watching football.

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And cleaning out.

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You know what was weird about that

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like it was fun to

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experiment with that dialogue

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but it was interesting because

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that's not how we usually talk to ourselves

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and our community

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outside of here

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like especially

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I actively

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try to use non-gendered words
when I'm addressing people

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because I don't know how
that's going to make them feel.

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So the fact that this was consensual between us

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and we were

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using it in a playful way

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but I'm definitely not trying to -

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yeah, bro

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- 'bro' everybody!

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So, how bout um...

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What's your safe sex practices
in this time that we're in, in this world?

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Oh, wow. Um...

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Yeah, I feel like that's always going to be

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a tricky subject during a global pandemic

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Um, but as far as my safer
sex practices have gone

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I do have more than one partner

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everybody that I'm involved with,
we've been getting tested

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for COVID and sharing our results

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Also, all of my housemates are getting tested

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and I'm keeping my interactions
to being between a small 'pod'

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close friends.

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Yeah

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You and two other people

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But, yeah, I think that totally
not engaging in any activity

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that personally would be really harmful for me

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So I'm trying to mitigate my risk,
and see it as harm reduction.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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That's real.

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To me it's like, it's... it's crazy

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It's like, "Get your STD test..."

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"Oh! AND your COVID."

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It's like, this is the world we're in right now.

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I... you do your best.

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You know, we have our little pods, you and I are together

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And of course we both have other lovers

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You know, it's like the risk factor you take.

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And I'm talking more about COVID than STDs.

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It's in with the conversation, right?

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So, I keep a small pod, as
much as you can, to be safe.

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Um, and...
- It's hard for poly sluts like us!

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Fucking pandemic's killing us!

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Yeah, so...

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But uh...

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(Shine Louise Houston)
And next ask each other

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"Why do you continue to do porn?"

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Or if this is the first time you've
done porn, which it definitely isn't....

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Do you want to ask this time?

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Oh, um....

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I know you've done a
couple of porn shoots now

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what keeps you coming back?
- Two with you!

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What keeps me coming?

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(Both laugh)

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What keeps me coming... um...

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I mean honestly, to me

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when I think about photos and porn

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and, this is all, like...

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..Like, years from now, when I'm dead.

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This shit's gonna be around.

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It's like, we're making history
for the future generations

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I know that sounds weird.

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But it's like, I want to be documented!

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I want to be on video.

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I want to be in film. I want people
to know in the future what

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we were like at this time, you know?

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Like, I'm 55. I'm loving this shit.

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I'm just... you know...

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When I'm 85 I want to look back on this!

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And smile!

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But I want other generations to know

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Hey we're queers, we're
here. We've been here.

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Like we look back on history

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at the queers and everything they did.

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Stonewall and all that.

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So to me... queer life, queer love

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That's so fucking important.

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So I'm willing... I want to be a part of that.

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I want to put myself out
there, and be seen, in that way.

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How 'bout you?

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That's amazing.

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I feel very similar.

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Queer, trans visibility.

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I feel like there's really not enough

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real content.

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of "us"... like

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Like, just being ourselves on camera.

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Everything's so fetishized

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out there in the world of porn that

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having actual people

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not just for the future, but I think about it

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the kids too

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teenagers that are... well, over 18!

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You know
- Clarify!

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For young people in general

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who want to find something to identify with

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and then feel more comfortable
with themselves and their bodies

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You know, if they have the opportunity
to see something like this

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then maybe it will give them hope,
if they're not quite there yet.

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even when you're 55...

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(Both laugh)

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Still going for the touchdown!

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So that's really important

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I also think just working for
Pink and White Productions

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CrashPad, it's like...

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They don't tell you what to do, you just
get to come in here and do your thing.

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And that's fucking rare, man.

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That's beautiful to have a safe space.

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It's authentic.
- Yep.

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So I really appreciate them.
And everything they do.

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Even though we were
going to show up like this!

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(Laughs)

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The last bonus question is

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"What has been the best thing about quarantine?"

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Phew...

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Alright, so, this is a tricky question but

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For you, what do you think has been the best thing,
or one of the best things about quarantine?

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One of the best things about quarantine? Um...

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I think, the best thing about quarantine is...

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..deeper relationships.

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To me, it's like

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we've come to a point

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because people feel isolated

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we're building deeper

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relationships in our community
because we need to reach out to each other

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we need to check in on each other

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like this is serious, you know?

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So, um...

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The best thing is building deeper
relationships in our community.

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And we've been through a lot this past year.

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So, um...

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Yeah, I would say that's the best thing. How
about you? What do you think is the best thing?

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Yeah.

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Honestly, that really
resonates with me a lot...

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and thinking about how, prior to this

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you just see people around wherever

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and it was way more spontaneous

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but there's a lot more intention now.

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And space to hang out with people.

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Um, and also I feel like

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collectively, we're thinking and talking about boundaries more.

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Yeah, that's real.

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You know, even when you do
meet up for a distanced hang out

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people ask, like, is it okay if I'm this close to you

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and things like that. And I think that
collectively out in the world

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hopefully when all this ends

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that we'll kind of just be more ingrained into our
habits of thinking about other people and their space

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Yeah, getting closer to people
- Yeah

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And just having this like
giant social dynamic change

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That's real. Yeah.
- Yeah

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And hanging out with you.

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Yeah. And doing porn.

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Being able to do porn. THANK YOU!

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Thank you, yeah!
- Woot!

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Yeah, that's great.

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Bow! Touch down! (Laughs)

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Spike! (Laughs)