1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,280 (Intro Music) 2 00:00:18,850 --> 00:00:21,400 Shine: For the interview, since you're there on your own 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,760 you can go ahead and take your masks off. 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,010 Selphie: Oh, right 5 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:32,210 Shine: Now one of you is going to give a clap 6 00:00:32,409 --> 00:00:34,410 in front of your face to sync the cameras 7 00:00:35,460 --> 00:00:37,010 What was that? 8 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:42,350 Shine: Will you give a clap? Close to your face. So we can see your hands. 9 00:00:43,170 --> 00:00:45,170 Shine: Yup. Yes! [CLAPS] 10 00:00:45,370 --> 00:00:47,370 Shine: Excellent, thank you 11 00:00:47,570 --> 00:00:49,570 Shine: Now one of you is going to ask the other 12 00:00:49,770 --> 00:00:51,770 "How did you enjoy the shoot today?" 13 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:55,010 How did you enjoy the shoot today? 14 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:57,210 Uh, the shoot was fun. 15 00:00:57,790 --> 00:01:00,640 I felt like we had a lot of ideas 16 00:01:01,190 --> 00:01:03,190 of like, what we wanted to do 17 00:01:03,390 --> 00:01:05,390 and how we wanted to do it 18 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:07,590 and... I don't know... 19 00:01:07,790 --> 00:01:12,160 everything kind of like, I don't know, it happened so fast 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,710 and all the sudden we did all these things 21 00:01:14,910 --> 00:01:17,980 Um. Which I love. 22 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:20,220 You fucked me really hard (laughs) 23 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:22,420 and that was really good 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Um... I felt like 25 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:32,530 we were able to, like, communicate when we wanted to switch 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,640 who was gonna go first and what was gonna go where 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,900 so it was really easy to kind of like move forward when we needed to move forward 28 00:01:40,990 --> 00:01:41,570 Yeah. 29 00:01:43,790 --> 00:01:45,790 Uh, how did you enjoy the shoot today? 30 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:47,190 I had fun 31 00:01:47,410 --> 00:01:49,410 It was, um... 32 00:01:50,370 --> 00:01:51,070 ..I don't know. 33 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:53,810 It felt a lot more... 34 00:01:56,210 --> 00:01:59,330 straight-forward than some of what we've done in the past 35 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:00,280 Yeah, definitely 36 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:04,630 But also it was fun for me to just be able to like... 37 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:09,259 kinda be the top in this way for a little portion of it 38 00:02:09,550 --> 00:02:11,020 I was definitely into that 39 00:02:11,220 --> 00:02:12,580 Yeah - That was good 40 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:13,600 Yeah - Yeah 41 00:02:15,310 --> 00:02:18,010 Yeah, it was fun. I enjoyed it. - Yeah 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,320 I'm still feeling kind of woozy from it (Laughs) 43 00:02:23,490 --> 00:02:26,360 Shine: The next question to ask each other is 44 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:29,950 "What was challenging, if anything?" 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,310 Uh, okay 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 What was challenging? If anything? 47 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:42,230 What was challenging, maybe, was... 48 00:02:42,570 --> 00:02:51,140 ..I don't know... Just deciding what kind of porn I want to be making 49 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:57,760 and like... deciding what kind of sex I actually have... 50 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,960 and what I want to put out there 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,030 I guess. 52 00:03:01,140 --> 00:03:03,980 Like, I think that's a lot of the conversations 53 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:07,240 we have around making porn 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,360 what do we actually want to do? 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Do we do what we do normally? 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Or do we... 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,580 Uh, pick and choose what we should be putting out there 58 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:18,950 So I think - I think we 59 00:03:19,149 --> 00:03:21,149 kinda put out like, a 60 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:23,350 like a platter of 61 00:03:23,550 --> 00:03:25,550 (laughs) just like everything 62 00:03:26,580 --> 00:03:29,540 (Laughs) Um, you know, without going too far 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,240 Mmhm - You know? In a way. 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,730 We can just comfortably be, like, go from here to there 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,840 and navigate that 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,040 I don't know. - Mmhm. 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,770 Yeah, just like, sort of like questions of that nature 68 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:48,070 I think is what's challenging but I think we did good. 69 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:48,670 Yeah. 70 00:03:48,870 --> 00:03:50,870 What was challenging for you, if anything? 71 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:52,750 Um... 72 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:58,030 I don't know... I think maybe navigating the physicality 73 00:03:58,350 --> 00:04:00,350 of the scene was 74 00:04:00,550 --> 00:04:04,690 a little more difficult for me today than it sometimes is 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,890 overall it wasn't a very challenging shoot. 76 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,140 You know? - Yep 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,760 I'm glad we made it out of the dream world. 78 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Yeah. (Laughs) 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,550 Shine: The next question to ask each other is 80 00:04:20,649 --> 00:04:23,560 "What are your safer sex practices, and why? 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,370 What are your safer sex practices? And why? 82 00:04:31,390 --> 00:04:33,390 Depending on... 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,170 what kind of sex I'm having 84 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:39,280 or who I'm having sex with, they vary 85 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:48,520 Um, but... you know, using barriers - condoms, occasionally dental dams - 86 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:50,660 is something that I'll do 87 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:55,350 Also just, you know, partner selection 88 00:04:55,750 --> 00:04:59,150 and making sure that the people I'm having sex with 89 00:04:59,790 --> 00:05:01,790 are also being safe 90 00:05:01,990 --> 00:05:08,470 and, you know, just making sure that everything's on the up and up 91 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:14,920 as far as knowing what you and your sexual partner have going on and everything 92 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:17,050 You know, is a big one for me. 93 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:20,060 Um, I don't know. What about you? 94 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:22,220 Yeah.... uh, yeah. 95 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:25,690 I feel like that's one that gets less... lesser talked about. 96 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:33,640 is not only safety and protecting yourself from like STI's and whatever 97 00:05:33,810 --> 00:05:38,360 but also just protecting yourself by being with people you feel safe with 98 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:40,700 that makes a lot of sense to me 99 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:45,370 Yeah, establishing standards of communication during sex 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,730 yeah... not, not compromising on what maybe you know you need 101 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:58,750 and investigating what it IS you actually need to feel safe 102 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:01,610 You know? And thinking about 103 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:04,620 those things, by yourself 104 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:07,950 and talking about those things with your lovers 105 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,120 and... yeah. 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:16,730 I think that's a really big part of safe sex that people should be talking about more 107 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:24,050 cause for me, that feels like a really lonely journey that I've had to figure out for myself 108 00:06:24,210 --> 00:06:28,630 it's really easy to do with you... but like, getting to that point... 109 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:30,890 What a journey. - Yeah 110 00:06:33,010 --> 00:06:36,480 But, yeah. Um. Other than that, of course 111 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:42,220 I use condoms, um, I use PrEP 112 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,680 That as well 113 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,630 And... communication 114 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,720 it's been hard to get good at communication during sex 115 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,920 but, like, it's a big one 116 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 around keeping yourself safe. 117 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,420 Yeah - Yeah 118 00:07:01,110 --> 00:07:03,110 Shine: The next question is 119 00:07:03,310 --> 00:07:05,900 "Why do you continue to do porn?" 120 00:07:07,910 --> 00:07:09,910 Why do you continue to do porn? 121 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:14,900 Um... I mean... 122 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:17,310 the absolutely not romantic answer is that 123 00:07:17,510 --> 00:07:24,850 it pays better than most other work that I do or have access to 124 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:25,900 You know? 125 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:29,660 And... I don't know... 126 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:37,260 All jobs... all ways of making money kinda have their pros and their cons to them 127 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:43,630 and with making porn, ironically, I feel like I have to sacrifice less in terms of, like, 128 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,710 dignity... you know... to a certain extent 129 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:51,280 in order to make money - yeah 130 00:07:52,510 --> 00:07:55,320 or at least, shooting porn with CrashPad anyway. 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,480 that feels like you guys, you know... 132 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:03,160 What about you? Why do you continue to do porn? 133 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:04,310 Um... 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,950 I think porn's just imporant 135 00:08:08,050 --> 00:08:10,050 I think 136 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:14,960 as long as people have been doing photography and film 137 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,760 they've been making porn 138 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,320 and it's very like, an almost fundamental part... 139 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:24,500 in a grand tradition - in a grand tradition! (laughs) 140 00:08:26,030 --> 00:08:26,610 And, uh... 141 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,400 I think it's good to be making gay porn because... like... 142 00:08:36,090 --> 00:08:44,340 it's just a very special space that you can actually go and watch gay people be happy 143 00:08:44,610 --> 00:08:47,510 You know? Like, that's really important to me. 144 00:08:47,930 --> 00:08:54,190 Like, a lot of times, you like stumble through porn on the internet 145 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:57,150 but like, if you're coming to MY porn, I want you to see 146 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,950 gay people, being happy, having pleasure, enjoying each other 147 00:09:03,150 --> 00:09:04,530 you know 148 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,710 cause there's not a lot of media that focuses on stuff like that, you know? 149 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:12,910 and that's just really important 150 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:18,930 Um, I hope people watch my porn and feel 151 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:27,510 like there is a space where you can be happy and free in this moment, you know? 152 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,960 I hope they feel represented in some way 153 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:34,030 I think... I just think it's important. 154 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:36,150 And it's really cool to be a part of it. 155 00:09:36,350 --> 00:09:37,320 Yeah. - Mmhm. 156 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:42,170 Shine (quietly): Awesome. Um, the bonus question... 157 00:09:42,670 --> 00:09:45,640 "What has been the best thing about quarantine?" 158 00:09:47,820 --> 00:09:53,040 Uh... what... okay... What has been the best thing about porn for you? 159 00:09:53,170 --> 00:09:54,140 Shine: Quarantine! 160 00:09:54,340 --> 00:09:56,340 Quarantine - Oh! Quarantine! 161 00:09:56,540 --> 00:10:00,420 What has been the best -the best thing about quarantine for you? 162 00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:08,080 I love mandated social distancing in public spaces. (Laughs) 163 00:10:08,340 --> 00:10:15,930 Like literally walking into, like, on the sidewalk, or in a store or something 164 00:10:16,130 --> 00:10:19,740 and just being like, "You have to stay six feet away from me." 165 00:10:19,970 --> 00:10:23,090 Oh, just like your sweater. It says "six feet" on it. 166 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:25,190 Yeah, exactly. (Laughs) 167 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:28,250 As a person that likes their space 168 00:10:28,510 --> 00:10:33,150 and feels that people don't always have good boundaries in public 169 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:38,360 it's nice that we're all being encouraged to have some boundaries 170 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,560 space-wise, anyway. - Yeah 171 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,300 Yeah, like we all... 172 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:49,700 all of us had to re-negotiate boundaries with each other 173 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,830 like on an international scale 174 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:56,450 I never thought about it that way, but that's really what happened 175 00:10:56,650 --> 00:11:02,180 And now it's like we have different understandings about what it means to respect each other 176 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:06,330 and what it means to like keep each other safe 177 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:07,980 you know - mhmm 178 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:13,300 and yeah, that conversation's being had 179 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:19,380 also the increase of accessibility in certain ways 180 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:22,490 like as a result of like, the pandemic 181 00:11:22,910 --> 00:11:24,910 you know 182 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:27,110 things like remote learning and remote work 183 00:11:27,310 --> 00:11:29,310 you know 184 00:11:29,510 --> 00:11:32,330 different types of I don't know 185 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:37,970 the decrease of the necessity of physical presence in life 186 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:41,090 may be an overall positive thing for society 187 00:11:41,290 --> 00:11:47,120 you know, as far as making it easier for everybody to participate 188 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,320 in everything, wherever and however they are 189 00:11:50,770 --> 00:11:52,770 I... honestly it's inspired me 190 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:54,970 to take different 191 00:11:57,790 --> 00:12:01,740 methods towards my own mental health 192 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:09,350 because I think I really needed that during quarantine 193 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:12,810 and so, I don't know, being 194 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:18,160 alone in these ways, I've concocted new ideas to take care of myself 195 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,630 and kind of experimenting with it and really finding things that are working for me 196 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:24,640 you know 197 00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:28,730 just like focusing on my crafts and working out more 198 00:12:30,530 --> 00:12:37,570 trying to figure out how to have a better positive mental attitude on a day to day basis 199 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:43,810 it's given me room to experiment with tactics of taking care of myself 200 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:49,160 and that's something I've experienced which is kind of cool... but, yeah! 201 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:56,400 I guess that's the best thing about quarantine. No one's ever asked me that before, so there you go. 202 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,080 Shine: awesome! Thank you so much! 203 00:13:00,260 --> 00:13:05,310 and thank you for being patient with us and all this technology 204 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:07,820 Yeah! It was interesting. Very interesting. 205 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:12,020 I hope, I don't know. It was kinda like web camming 206 00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:14,220 (laughs) 207 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Okay, well, I guess that's a wrap? 208 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:28,550 That's a wrap for today and you should see payment shortly and all that good stuff... 209 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:35,950 ... you're free to go! 210 00:13:36,210 --> 00:13:38,900 Lovely - Thank you so much!! 211 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:39,650 (Claps)